Re: WotL OOC Thread
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 10:28 am
Okay, just about everyone's scenes are wrapped up. Just Tulbas and Grubnick left. It shouldn't take long to resolve them, and once that happens, we'll end the chapter.
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As I said above, three new factions have been introduced so far. At this point, everyone is currently viewed by all three factions as Indifferent (10). The exception is Arulia, who is viewed by the Temple of Takhisis as Cautious (12). They don't what she is yet, but they will feel innately suspicious of her. Like there was something off that they can't quite put their finger on. So she should take care to avoid them if she can. If the church finds out she is a follower of Paladine, you can get they'll drop to Hostile pretty quick.JadedDM wrote:There are lots of different factions in the city, and they will have a 'relationship meter' with the PCs, the same way NPCs do (Revered, Friendly, Indifferent, Cautious, Threatening, Hostile--a numerical scale from 1-20).
If you do things that benefit a faction or makes them happy, you will earn points with that faction. Likewise, if you piss them off or act against their goals, you will lose points. Most of the factions will begin indifferent toward you (10), but certain races and classes may adjust your beginning score (if you were playing a cleric of Takhisis, for instance, you would probably start with a higher score for the Church of Takhisis).
In order for an act to have an effect, however, the faction must know about it. Killing those Ergothians would have earned some big disapproval from the Holy Guard back in Arc 1...had they ever known it was the party who had done it.
Furthermore, the relationship you have with a faction is only applied to the group in general. Individuals might feel differently. For instance, while Tulbas' actions in Arc 1 might have pleased the Cultists of the Master as a whole--but Darewind himself would still be pissed at Tulbas for trying to show him up. Generally speaking, any named NPC will not necessarily be affected by the faction's relationship with the PC--it's just the nameless masses that are affected.
"Revered" means the faction views you as a hero. They adore and respect you, and you probably have immense pull with them. They will probably loan whatever resources they have to you and may even follow you over their own leader(s).
"Friendly" means the faction considers you an ally. They trust you, but probably won't risk their own necks for you without good reason.
"Indifferent" means that the faction has no strong feelings toward you, if they have even heard of you before.
"Cautious" means the faction is suspicious or distrustful of you. For whatever reason, they don't trust you at all.
"Threatening" means the faction views you as an enemy. At best, they want nothing to do with you. At worst, they may actively try and stymie you.
"Hostile" means the faction views you as a huge threat. They will devote large amounts of resources to hunting you down.
There are a lot of factions in the city and I can't really name them all (and new ones may be introduced later). But to name a few, there is the Church of Takhisis, the various brigades and companies of the Red Dragonarmy, the farmers of Haven, the merchants/craftsmen of Haven, the dockworkers of Haven, the aristocrats of Haven, the thieves guild (if/when it becomes active again), and so on. Each faction has a leader (or leaders) and a headquarters.
Sometimes factions may oppose each other in certain ways, and helping one means angering another. Not all of the factions will come into play, but as each one is introduced, I'll begin charting the PCs' relationship with them, just as I would with any new NPC introduced.
I've decided that since Grubnick is a cleric of Sirrion, a neutral deity, he only needs to earn half as many points to become attuned (5 instead of 10).JadedDM wrote:I've been working on a little project here, in regards to the true gods of Krynn. I knew that at some point, some of the party will want to convert over once they become public knowledge. But which ones? Some of you aren't all that knowledgeable about the setting, and so don't even know who the old gods are. And I would like, at some point, to introduce a true cleric NPC to the party, so they can have magical healing again (since some of you are still nursing wounds from the mines).
So what I've done is, I took all 21 gods and boiled them down to three aspects or traits that most appeal to them. Then I went through the first three chapters of the game, and wrote down each time a PC did something that would please a god, based on their traits. So a character who spent some time in self-reflection might get a +1 from Zivilyn, or someone who showed compassion to another might get a +1 from Mishakal, and so on. Also, more overt deeds are worth more points. Giving a homeless man a few coins might be worth +1 point from Mishakal, whereas building a soup kitchen to help feed many homeless could be worth considerably more.
Then I add up the points. So far, there is no clear pattern. Most of you have 1-2 points in multiple deities. I figure once you acquire enough points in a certain deity's favor, that deity will make some attempt to reach out to you. I was thinking maybe 5 points for a Good or Evil god, or 10 points for a Neutral one. (This is because the Neutral gods are much more passive when it comes to seeking out worshipers.)
Of course, a PC can always reject any deity that contacts them. However, if the PC continues to rack up points of favor for that deity, they might try again later.
Good question. I suppose it depends on how much he taught Grubnick. It's possible he has at least a passing knowledge of other gods. At least their names and domains, at any rate. He probably knows a bit more about Shinare (Sirrion's mate), Reorx (informally the god of dwarves) and Gilean (leader of the pantheon of twilight). Sirrion often works with Chislev, too, since nature relies heavily on renewal and life/death cycles (forest fires, for instance, and the four seasons).TristenC wrote:How much about the gods in general would Grubnick have from Delarn's teaching?